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Hearthstone player banned for showing support for Hong Kong protests

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1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 1:38:28 PM EST (GMT-5)
The esports world is finding itself embroiled in a political dispute. Blizzard has banned pro Hearthstone player Ng Wai Chung (aka Blitzchung) for a year after he voiced support for Hong Kong protesters in a post-match interview. The statement allegedly violated rules forbidding players from saying something that "offends a portion or group of the public" or "otherwise damages" Blizzard's image. The developer is also kicking Chung out of the Grandmasters, eliminating his winnings from the tournament and halting work with the casters who conducted the interview despite their attempts to distance themselves from the statement.

https://www.engadget.com/2019/10/08...
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 1:40:18 PM EST (GMT-5)
I really hope society starts to boycott companies, celebrities, etc. who are in China’s pocket and enabling China’s censorship & human rights abuses.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 1:44:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
Supporting Democracy and Freedom somehow damages Blazzard’s image? I think Blizzard is damaging Blizzard’s image.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 1:46:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
It damages Blizzard's image in China, which loses them money. I thought you loved the Free Market? The company is just acting in its own best interests; I'd think you would be all in favor of that.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 1:48:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 1:44:05 PM Noldor wrote:
Supporting Democracy and Freedom somehow damages Blazzard’s image? I think Blizzard is damaging Blizzard’s image.


i was surprised there wasn't a thread on companies being in china's pocket already.

from what i know about blizzard (my brother-in-law avidly plays hearthstone and i fire up diablo 3 from time to time) they're staring down the barrel of backlash and it's only going to get a lot more intense from here.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:09:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
Good. Blizzard, the NBA, Apple, etc. deserve it.

These companies, businessmen and women, and celebrities have insane amount of wealth, but it appears they have endless greed. It’s sickening to see the passion and desperation of the HK protestors contrasted with the unchecked greed and apathy of people doing business with China.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:12:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
BlizzCon should be rather interesting. I won't be there this year, but looking forward to seeing how hard they dodge showing fans this lap on the streams.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:54:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 1:46:37 PM birdsong4j wrote:
It damages Blizzard's image in China, which loses them money. I thought you loved the Free Market? The company is just acting in its own best interests; I'd think you would be all in favor of that.

If China wants to ban players, they are free to do so. Not sure why Blizzard felt the need to do so. It would not have hurt sales in China one iota.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:55:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:12:47 PM Mr Bungle wrote:
BlizzCon should be rather interesting. I won't be there this year, but looking forward to seeing how hard they dodge showing fans this lap on the streams.

I’m actually going to be there this year. I really doubt there will be any mention of China.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:59:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 1:46:37 PM birdsong4j wrote:
It damages Blizzard's image in China, which loses them money. I thought you loved the Free Market? The company is just acting in its own best interests; I'd think you would be all in favor of that.
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:54:50 PM Noldor wrote:
If China wants to ban players, they are free to do so. Not sure why Blizzard felt the need to do so. It would not have hurt sales in China one iota.


No. Nope.

This is not about China banning people from competing in a tournament or about sales in China.

China is investing money in US companies and getting US companies to enforce China’s censorship laws.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:03:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
China isn’t doing the censoring. US companies are. And they are effectively censoring US citizens (see NBA & Daryl Morey).

The threat isn’t the impact to sales in China. The threat is the revocation of Chinese investment dollars.

In essence, American companies are betraying American principles and enforcing Chinese laws.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:06:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
“ The threat isn’t the impact to sales in China. The threat is the revocation of Chinese investment dollars.“

Well, Chinese sales is actually part of the threat. Companies that don’t agree to enforce Chinese censorship laws, even in the US, risk being banned in China and loosing investment.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:12:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
Is China giving Blizzard money to enforce their censorship laws?
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:13:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:12:58 PM Noldor wrote:
Is China giving Blizzard money to enforce their censorship laws?

"Chinese tech giant Tencent's minority stake (under 4.9 percent) in Activision Blizzard "

RTFA
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:17:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
from what i remember, most (if not all) companies in china are partially state-owned, correct?
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:18:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:12:47 PM Mr Bungle wrote:
BlizzCon should be rather interesting. I won't be there this year, but looking forward to seeing how hard they dodge showing fans this lap on the streams.
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:55:47 PM Noldor wrote:
I’m actually going to be there this year. I really doubt there will be any mention of China.


So they won't mention Diablo Immortal at all? Because THAT is the market that they are targeting with that giant disappointment.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:28:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:12:47 PM Mr Bungle wrote:
BlizzCon should be rather interesting. I won't be there this year, but looking forward to seeing how hard they dodge showing fans this lap on the streams.
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:55:47 PM Noldor wrote:
I’m actually going to be there this year. I really doubt there will be any mention of China.


There will 100% be attendees sneaking in/rocking some hong kong gear. I'm personally hoping for at least one Houston Rockets Mei cosplay.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:32:04 PM EST (GMT-5)
What I really don't understand about this is why the commentators got the boot too. Like... Fired for existing where that statement was made? Insanity.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:35:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
The supposed reasoning is they knew in advance what he was going to do. All spineless money firings either way, but that's the hubub.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:42:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:12:47 PM Mr Bungle wrote:
BlizzCon should be rather interesting. I won't be there this year, but looking forward to seeing how hard they dodge showing fans this lap on the streams.
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:55:47 PM Noldor wrote:
I’m actually going to be there this year. I really doubt there will be any mention of China.
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:28:13 PM Mr Bungle wrote:
There will 100% be attendees sneaking in/rocking some hong kong gear. I'm personally hoping for at least one Houston Rockets Mei cosplay.

I will let you know if I see anything
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:43:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:12:58 PM Noldor wrote:
Is China giving Blizzard money to enforce their censorship laws?
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:13:55 PM birdsong4j wrote:
"Chinese tech giant Tencent's minority stake (under 4.9 percent) in Activision Blizzard " RTFA

I didn’t know minority shareholders can make policy
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:43:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
Are you seriously this dense? Jesus.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:53:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:12:58 PM Noldor wrote:
Is China giving Blizzard money to enforce their censorship laws?
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:13:55 PM birdsong4j wrote:
"Chinese tech giant Tencent's minority stake (under 4.9 percent) in Activision Blizzard " RTFA
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:43:22 PM Noldor wrote:
I didn’t know minority shareholders can make policy


You also didn’t know what was happening with China/US companies regarding censorship or consequences. So maybe you should sit this one out.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 4:00:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:12:47 PM Mr Bungle wrote:
BlizzCon should be rather interesting. I won't be there this year, but looking forward to seeing how hard they dodge showing fans this lap on the streams.
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 2:55:47 PM Noldor wrote:
I’m actually going to be there this year. I really doubt there will be any mention of China.
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:18:21 PM GoGopher wrote:
So they won't mention Diablo Immortal at all? Because THAT is the market that they are targeting with that giant disappointment.

Everyone hated that game. I kind of remember hearing that, that they hope for big sales in China.
1 month ago - Wednesday 10/9/19 - 4:03:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 10/9/19 - 3:35:10 PM Mr Bungle wrote:
The supposed reasoning is they knew in advance what he was going to do. All spineless money firings either way, but that's the hubub.

Well, you know, profit is the only thing that matters right? Regardless of the facts that they have zero money problems.

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