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The Great Coronavirus Panic of 2020

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2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 2:17:18 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 3/13/20 - 2:02:17 PM Noldor wrote:
Coughing and sneezing means it’s airborne doesn’t it?


Isn’t there a difference between diseases that are transmitted via large droplets that land pretty much right after they are expelled and diseases that can stay in the air for hours?
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 2:33:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
“ The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.

Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.” - How COVID-19 Spreads
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 2:34:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
The article starts by saying: “ COVID-19 is a new disease and we are still learning how it spreads”
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 2:37:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
We do know it does spread rapidly. And it’s infection rate is exponential. We also know that closing borders, avoiding large or small gatherings, and quarantining are effective in preventing it from spreading.
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 2:39:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
There are technical distinction based on particle size (WHO/CDC define <5 micrometer/microns as 'airborne', >5 is droplet based transmission).

When you sneeze with a cold/flu you do project droplets out, rather than straight down, but it's not like measles where they're light enough to float around. Plus the air on a plane gets filtered/replaced quite a bit. Obviously if you're sitting next to someone who is sick for a long period of time, on a plane or anywhere, then there's a higher risk of transmission. I wouldn't be worried about someone several rows away on a plane, though.

Of course, if the plane is busy and you end up to someone who is sick, you can't necessarily just get up and move away.
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 2:42:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
I’ll take a week in the Caribbean with Coronavirus over a week of work at home without it.
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 3:03:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 3/13/20 - 2:05:44 PM Noldor wrote:
Once someone coughs or sneezes, tiny germ particles float through the air. And if you’re alive, and you’re breathing, you could inhale one of those tiny particles.


The idea is that these germs don't really stay in the air for other people to inhale. It's more like someone coughs or sneezes and the droplets end up on a table. You touch the table and pick up the germs. You can then transmit them to your mouth, eyes, or other openings.
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 4:32:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
“ These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.” according to the CDC
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 4:38:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
The U.S. Surgeon General put it even more emphatically, tweeting: "Seriously people — STOP BUYING MASKS!"

He explained, "They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can't get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!"
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 4:39:04 PM EST (GMT-5)
Supposedly masks are ineffective
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 4:40:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 3/13/20 - 4:39:04 PM Noldor wrote:
Supposedly masks are ineffective


It might prevent droplets from landing in the mouth or noses of people...

On Friday 3/13/20 - 4:32:25 PM Noldor wrote:
“ These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.” according to the CDC

2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 4:55:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
That’s what I would think too. But if masks are ineffective, I guess they are saying that the droplets are so small that they will pass right through the mask.
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 4:58:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think they are just making poo up so people don't hoard masks.
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 5:10:57 PM EST (GMT-5)
They’re not. Masks don’t really help if you’re not sick.

Masks work by containing particles released by coughing/sneezing. They keep people from coughing/sneezing on surfaces or coughing/sneezing on their hands and touching surfaces.

If you’re not sick, you don’t have germs to spread. But you can still touch infected surfaces and touch your face.

If you’re not sick you should be focused on not touching your face and washing your hands.
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 5:17:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
They made me wear a mask when my FIL had pneumonia- - I wasn't sick, he was.

2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 5:18:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
...and yes, I realize pneumonia is different than corona virus. I'm just questioning the 'Masks don’t really help if you’re not sick.' comment.
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 5:23:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
Now that Trump has declared a state of emergency, I wonder if funds will go to building a border wall to prevent the spread of the virus..
2 months ago - Friday 3/13/20 - 7:51:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
Just my $.02 but now is not the time for leisure and play. If your travel has anything to do with fun, is non-essential, it should wait. Right now things are so unpredictable with this virus and the governments don't even know what they are doing from one day to the next it seems. What if you travel somewhere and get stuck there, meaning you get quarantined and have to stay there?

It sucks for the economy. It sucks that fun has to be put aside for a while but we really must do all we can to help in slowing the community spread. Not doing so is irresponsible as there are aren't enough resources (hospital staff, equipment, so on) to deal with this. It is not so much about fear as about common sense...
2 months ago - Saturday 3/14/20 - 6:29:41 AM EST (GMT-5)
Touching surface on a plane... Planes are small narrow confined spaces and always slightly unstable in motion. People hold onto things a lot going up and down the isles getting into their cramped seats, pulling down those plastic tables, squeezing into the tiny toilets. If as has been said, the virus can be passing from person to person via a hard surface during a period of up to 72 hours after contamination, I'd be avoiding aircraft fuselages. Rather than investing in masks, people might consider plastic gloves if the infection rate becomes increasingly higher.
2 months ago - Saturday 3/14/20 - 6:56:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
They changed it to November the this morning thankfully.

I’ve recently noticed how much I love touching my face
2 months ago - Saturday 3/14/20 - 8:36:46 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 3/14/20 - 6:56:13 AM 4evame wrote:
I’ve recently noticed how much I love touching my face

Same
2 months ago - Saturday 3/14/20 - 8:58:26 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 3/13/20 - 5:23:26 PM CowDung wrote:
Now that Trump has declared a state of emergency, I wonder if funds will go to building a border wall to prevent the spread of the virus..

Mexico considering closing US border to prevent spread of virus
2 months ago - Saturday 3/14/20 - 9:09:50 AM EST (GMT-5)
Went to 5 different stores yesterday and couldn't find any toilet paper. I'm down to 2 rolls. Hopefully I find some before I have to steal a roll from work.
2 months ago - Saturday 3/14/20 - 9:23:46 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 3/14/20 - 8:36:46 AM Spoonerism wrote:
Same


You love touching 4evame's face?
2 months ago - Saturday 3/14/20 - 10:57:29 AM EST (GMT-5)
Doesn't everyone?

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