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2,731 hits 1.4 (16 votes) Share Favorite | Flag 9 years ago by Electric

Do you think autistic culture is real?
Or is it just an excuse to not improve yourself?


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9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 6:31:43 PM EST (GMT-5)
Is there an autistic culture?

I believe autism is real, yes. I don't know enough about it to make any statement past that.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 6:48:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 2/4/10 - 6:31:43 PM HaroldtheBat wrote:
Is there an autistic culture?


No, there isn't, to answer your question harry..

Oh, and a huge F**K YOU to electric for the implied insult in the blurb accompanying this question.

People with autism don't choose not to 'improve' themselves you ignorant tool, we can't be more or less than we are.

Did I say we? Yes I did. I have dyspraxia, which is on the high functioning end of the autistic spectrum.

You want to pick on someone with autism?

Try me, I'll tear you a new one without even breaking a f**king sweat.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 6:53:35 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 2/4/10 - 6:48:44 PM Brunnen_G wrote:
You want to pick on someone with autism?

I thought Electric had some form of autism, as well (by his own testimony - - I'm not trying to make jokes here).

There's a culture or support group culture for people who love someone with autism, I'm pretty sure. I don't know if that's what you'd call it or what. We have friends with autistic kids and as our kids have gotten older, they've kind of become more and more into their friends who also have autistic kids and less into us.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 6:58:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
Me too, IRL. I took the story of the question to be something that someone might have told him. idk.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 7:37:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
There is some autism culture, or more specifically "aspie culture" on the internet. They use the term "neurotypical" or NT to define those not afflicted by the condition. There seems to be a lot of self-diagnosis of asperger's syndrome as well, but most of the evidence I find on that is people bitching about it on websites such as urbandictionary.

I think there is some natural affinity or connection between people with autism as well. Somehow, without my parents being involved, nearly half of my friends had asperger's as well, generally more severe than my own, though.

And the "choosing not to improve" is something I really believe. There are people who believe that the world should cater to them, instead of learning to adapt.

Having a condition is not a choice. Self-abuse to get a teacher fired, assaulting people with buckets, hacking people... those are choices.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 7:42:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 2/4/10 - 7:37:59 PM Electric wrote:
And the "choosing not to improve" is something I really believe. There are people who believe that the world should cater to them, instead of learning to adapt.

I believe that, too, to some extent, and I see it in my classroom all the time with kids who use IEPs as a crutch, as an excuse not to try at all. I can't think of a time where I've thought it was true of autistic students, though, including all the mild, differently named relatives of autism. Those issues have seemed beyond their control and unconnected to conscious choices other students make.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 7:43:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think it's more true for ADD, at least in my personal experience.

So IEPs are a national thing? That is what I had for a long time in school myself.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:01:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 2/4/10 - 7:43:24 PM Electric wrote:
So IEPs are a national thing? That is what I had for a long time in school myself.


Yes. I work with preschoolers with developmental disorders, most of them with autism, all of them with IEPs.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:06:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
Autism is definitely real. They can't help it. Sometimes they can't even hear you when you talk to them. I knew a boy once that would say something to me, but then if I said anything back to him, he wouldn't respond. He'd also just kind of zone out and do something repeatedly. Once he kept taking a stick, saying "AbracadaBRA!" and hitting me every time. My friend's mom who was watching him had to physically take the stick from him.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:08:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
My brother had moderate Asperger's.

My mom had to fight the school system tooth and nail for just a 504 plan for him, nevermind an IEP.

But that just goes to show how f*cked up my school is.

At least he's gotten better now. Not all the way there, but most of the way.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:08:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 2/4/10 - 7:37:59 PM Electric wrote:
And the "choosing not to improve" is something I really believe. There are people who believe that the world should cater to them, instead of learning to adapt.


And this is where the f**k you comes in.

I've taught kids with Asperger's syndrome. if they could fit in to the world, they would. But they can't. So the rest of the world not afflicted with this terrible condition has to make a small adjustment to accomodate them. BFD.

If you think you're so superior to people with Asperger's then accomodating their needs shouldn't present a major challenge to you, should it?

Unless you're just the sort of wanker who thinks every type of mental disability is a resulty of 'not trying hard enough'.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:18:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
I have it as well, and I've learned to adapt as best I can.

There are several people I have known who use their disability or disabilities to get away with things that they know they should not be doing.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:22:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:18:25 PM Electric wrote:
I have it as well, and I've learned to adapt as best I can. There are several people I have known who use their disability or disabilities to get away with things that they know they should not be doing.


How do you know they know they shouldn't be doing it? People with autism don't necessarily have the ability to judge whether or not something is socially acceptable.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:26:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
I believe (or hope) that everyone understands that assaulting another person is inexcusable.

And the person I am ranting about through this question is aware that they should not be doing these things, and has told me so.

I don't think we should accept something that is a threat to others just because someone has a condition. It's one thing to pick your nose or talk out of turn. Another entirely to harm others.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:29:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
Everyone? You think a person who can't talk, who has no idea what's going on in the world around him has any idea what's right and wrong?
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:29:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 2/4/10 - 7:42:31 PM IRLIteach wrote:
I can't think of a time where I've thought it was true of autistic students, though, including all the mild, differently named relatives of autism.


Oh, and f**k you too, you arrogant prick. 'Relatives of autism'. Is that a scientific term? Didn't think so.

Take your homespun, Dr Phil psychology and shove it straight up your arse.

I honestly can't stand wankers like you. If it's not in a wheelchair, it's not a disability.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:30:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:29:05 PM superkay37 wrote:
Everyone? You think a person who can't talk, who has no idea what's going on in the world around him has any idea what's right and wrong?


No. I am thinking more about mild forms of autism. I think another term is PDD... asperger's. etc.

People with severe disabilties cannot be judged the same as those with mild ones
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:34:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
Asperger's and PDD are still forms of autism, and people with such a diagnosis are still delayed socially, however mild.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:35:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:29:41 PM Brunnen_G wrote:
If it's not in a wheelchair, it's not a disability.


Maybe now it's my turn to say eff you. So you're saying that people with Down's Syndrome aren't disabled? They're not in wheelchairs, but they are most certainly disabled! Maybe some less than others, but some of them have such a severe case that they'll never drive a car. It's unlikely for them to have children (not to say it's never happened, but most of the time they can't), and some people with Down's just never fully comprehend something no matter how hard they try. That is certainly a disability!
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:36:06 PM EST (GMT-5)
What does PDD stand for?

Something about developmental delays?
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:37:19 PM EST (GMT-5)
Pervasive Developmental Disorder
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:38:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
Poke a stick & pray you get bitten? That's low. For shame, little boy.
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:48:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
funny how the insane kid attacks his own. did picking on gay people get boring?
9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:56:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
I never realized that sane people stalked and harassed young women suffering from postpartum depression.

I guess I'll have to find me one of those to prove my sanity to the overlords.

9 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 2/4/10 - 9:21:43 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 2/4/10 - 8:08:33 PM Brunnen_G wrote:
Unless you're just the sort of wanker who thinks every type of mental disability is a resulty of 'not trying hard enough'.

There's a subset of people with autistic spectrum disorders who go as far as to say that it's not at all a disability, shout about their normalcy, and would rather shut themselves off from "neurotypical" society. Very few of those people have severe autism (else they would struggle to even communicate such ideas), however.

It's actually a close mirror to the deaf community, and, as mentioned in the another current questions thread, carries a similar (almost cult-like) spirit as the movement against cochlear implants. In terms of that particular subset, then, there are some that indeed just won't accept being part of larger society.

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